[eu-gene] There must be no generative, procedural or computational art

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Wed Jan 4 21:54:42 GMT 2012


hmm I didn't consider this problematic as for example realtime audio resulting of the process would qualify in my interpretation...

On 04 Jan 2012, at 22:49, Antoine Schmitt wrote:

> Hi, I love this discussion ;) Very instructive and precise.
> 
> While everybody is hot, and you Philip especially, I'd like to talk if  
> you don't mind about the only thing in your definition that has always  
> boggled me, and has always refrained me from calling most of my work  
> 'generative art' : it is the last words, about the output :  
> "...contributing to or resulting in a completed work of art".
> 
> What about if the process does not produce anything ? Or at least  
> anything finished. You can see (or hear) it executing, but it never  
> stops. There is no finished output, there is just process, movement.  
> Like Tinguely's machines, or Calder's. Or like my Pixel Blanc.
> or : What if the process does not produce a work of art, but something  
> that is _not_ art, obviously according to historical standard or as  
> defined by the artist author. For example, a news article. Or a
> In both cases, it is the process itself that is the work of art, i.e.  
> to which the audience is confronted, and that the artist molds and  
> signs.
> 
> Do these fall into your definition of 'generative art' ? If yes, what  
> is the difference between 'generative art' and wider definitions like  
> 'process art', or 'system art', or 'programmed art', or 'living art',  
> or 'algorithmic art' (did I forget one ? let's forget 'digital art'  
> and 'media art' for now) ?
> 
> I personnaly use 'programmed art', when I need to describe precisely  
> my process-centered works, but I am not totally satisfied with it  
> either...
> 
> Thank you for your opinion
> 
> 
> ++ as / Antoine Schmitt
> 
> 
> 
> 
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